"Does anybody on here know how to play the flute?" I guess it's okay to play the flute, but certainly NOT in a school band!
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WT: "A sport is objectionable if too many people like it"
by cedars inif i may, i would like to offer another glimpse into the strange minds of the writers of the more recent watchtower study editions, this time on the topic of sport.. no doubt like many of you, i enjoy playing sport because (apart from anything else) regular exercise stops me from becoming fat and unhealthy.
during my time as an active witness, i often had the opportunity to play sports with other brothers, although i became increasingly frustrated that this was not (in my case) organised on a more regular basis by those in my congregation; rather, games of my particular sport were organised less and less frequently until they became virtually non-existant.. things have improved considerably since i became inactive and was improperly shunned by those 'brothers' i used to play sport with, because i have begun playing my particular sport with so-called "worldly" people in my local community.
apart from allowing me to get back into some semblance of shape (thereby keeping mrs cedars happy) i am also able to keep in touch with my neighbours and be more sociable with those who live near me.
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Family Waste the Evening Night--the Third Anniversary
by WTWizard insome of you might remember that last separate book study.
back in early january 2009, they had the last one.
after that, it was added to the theocraptic misery "school(??
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I'd venture to say that the vast majority of dubbies simply ignored the "suggestion." That certainly is the case in these parts.
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"this is a regime where everything that isn't forbidden is compulsory"
by cofty inanthony daniels, a psychiatrist and writer whose pen name is theodore dalrymple wrote this line about north korea.. does it remind you of anything?.
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It's been said here before: "The Watchtower is the North Korea of religions."
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So "The Quiet One" now has a problem with my domestic abuse article...
by cedars insorry about this, i generally don't like confrontation of any kind, but a situation has arisen on another thread, and i thought i would give the quiet one the opportunity to explain her reasons as to why she dislikes my article on domestic abuse without hijacking someone else's thread in the process.. the sad thing is, i had an entire thread devoted to publicizing this article and receiving feedback, but he/she chose not to say anything on that thread, but have a go at me on an entirely unrelated thread.. anyway, i'm copying and pasting the whole conversation so that both sides of the argument can be seen.. a copy of the offending article can be found here: "'won without a word' - at what cost?".
i'm not necessarily asking anyone else to join in the discussion, although you are welcome to do so if you wish to add anything.
the purpose of this thread is to give "the quiet one" the platform that he/she evidently craves to criticize the article in public (i have offered to discuss this over pms, but that offer hasn't been taken).. so anyway, sorry about this folks... (sigh).
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"I'm only suggesting that people should base their accusations on what is printed, not what they think was meant.. "
I wish I had a nickel for everytime an elder said "brother, they can't say that openly; you have to read between the lines." They said more than enough in printed innuendo about the purported significance of 1975 to unleash a torrent of independent -- ostensibily unauthorized -- conjecture, from the platform and in private conversations, often by senior society representives, all of which they scarcely disavowed and in some cases openly encouraged.
Let me ask: if you let your dog off the leash and he goes on a biting rampage in your neighborhood can you morally disavow responsibility for the consequences?
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New rules for talk recordings?
by discreetslave ini was told this is the new arrangement re recordings made known only to the boe.
can someone confirm this?.
one congregation cd is made of meetings, assemblies & dc to pass on to publishers who want to hear it.
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lots of "cloak & dagger" for an organization that purports to solely represent the Jesus who charged his true disciples: "what you heard whispered, preach from the housetops!" -- Matt. 10:27
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could Jonah have survived in the belly of a whale?
by highdose inits not like he had access to oxygen, light, fresh water or food.
what about the digestive jucies in the belly?.
please correct me if i'm wrong, but surely this just can't be possible?.
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... Then Jonah, instead of rejoicing in God's mercy in sparing Nineveh upon its repentance, got pissed and went off to sulk, only to get bonked in the head by a falling gourd.
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They would have sent a follow-up letter to the elders in any case, letterhead or not... that's their modus operandi.
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Not just elders in Victoria who need wwc
by Mattieu inin reference to the comments that it should not just be the elders getting the working with children check in victoria, i just caught up with my mate who is still an elder and his 2 buddies (who were also elders), one who turned out to be the p/o (sorry, still stuck with the old lingo).
3 elders and a so called apostate, and yes we were all drinking beers, ok, i wasnt, that nz sav blnc was too good to pass up.... the direction from bethel is that all elders/ m/s's and pioneers in victoria have to get the wwc, so its not just for elders.. the deadline for all elders, ms's and pioneers to get this check passed a few weeks ago.
in my mates congo, there was still a few m/'s and pioneers who had not yet submitted their application yet as well as 1 elder.
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"In the interests of transparancy?" God, that's the LEAST of their interests!! They thrive on cultivating the willful ignorance of their flock.
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UK charity "Refuge" gives response to WT article on domestic abuse
by cedars ini'm sure by now you are all aware of the feb 15th, 2012 study edition of the watchtower, and its outrageous experience depicting domestic violence.. as you may know, i have been looking into the matter in some detail.
i decided to contact the uk domestic abuse charity "refuge".
they indicated their concern towards the article and offered to help in any way they could.
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" The Society's approach to domestic abuse is directly linked with its approach to divorce, and the sanctity of marriage. Put simply, the Society is more interested in preserving the sanctity of marriage than they are in preserving human life."
May I suggest also that this approach is a variant of their policies on child molestation; it's another instance whereby the WT seeks to shield the sociological problems ("dirty laundry") of their flock from the gaze of the general public and away from the courts in yet another bid to prop up their claims of being the "happiest people on earth."
Kudos to you Cedars; nice going.
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Just How Self-Centered Are JWs?
by Room 215 ini just received a brochure from a midwestern travel agency operated by jws that specialized in bethel tours.
i found this excerpt, relating to one item on the itinerary, as visit toe the holoccaust museum in washington quite interesting: "the museum is dedicated to presenting the story of how more than 30,000 jehovah's witnesses were persecuted by the nazis.
apparently the tour operators consider the slaugther of more than 6 million jews unworthy of mention!
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... nor do they ever mention that including that the Nazi lumped a significant number of the Russelite Bible Student "standfasters" who split over the WT over the Rutherford takeover with the the JWs in the "Purple Triangle" category.